In this episode, Mike Townsend sits down with Nader Al-Naji, creator of DeSo. His interest in crypto began in 2012 when he mined approximately 23 Bitcoins on free campus electricity while studying computer science at Princeton. After that, Al-Naji worked in high-frequency trading at D. E. Shaw and as an engineer on Google Search prior to raising $133 million for Basis, his previous company, which was building a decentralized dollar. After Basis, Al-Naji set his sights on decentralizing social media. He created BitClout, a high-profile social app. BitClout was an early prototype that allowed Nader to test and iterate on the DeSo blockchain before launching it publicly. BitClout showed that you can build truly mainstream social apps on blockchain tech.